Biden made his comments as he and several other top Democratic presidential candidates — including rivals Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren — were in Cedar Rapids, Iowa for the LGBTQ Presidential Forum.
Cedar Rapids Gazette columnist Lyz Lenz asked the former vice president, “You have praised Vice President Mike Pence as a ‘decent guy.’ It goes without saying Pence is opposed to LGBTQ rights. How can LGBT people trust that you won’t compromise on issues that put them at risk in order to reach across the aisle to people like Pence?”
WATCH: Fmr. VP Biden is asked at LGBTQ presidential forum why he should be trusted not to compromise on issues, following statements Biden made praising VP Pence as a “decent guy.” pic.twitter.com/u88WbzCKYj
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Biden responded that he was the first legislator to support gay marriage before anyone else did nationally. Biden added that he never had to “evolve” — he’s always advocated for LGBTQ rights.
He told an anecdote about applying to a job as a teen and seeing two men kiss. When he asked his father about what he saw, the elder Biden responded, “Joey, it’s simple. They love each other. Period.”
Biden then addressed previously calling Pence “decent.”
“To refer to someone on the other team as being ‘decent’ — it’s a way in which you usually speak when you try to get things done,” Biden explained.
“I still call President Trump ‘president,’ but I don’t think he’s all that decent,” Biden said to applause.
Biden’s comments came on the same day as reports that Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Biden’s son, Hunter.
While Biden didn’t address the Ukraine reports in Idaho, he did release a statement earlier in the day. “If these reports are true, then there is truly no bottom to President Trump’s willingness to abuse his power and abase our country. This behavior is particularly abhorrent because it exploits the foreign policy of our country and undermines our national security for political purposes,” the statement said.